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    Thorens Historie - mehr als ein Jahrhundert Tonwiedergabe

    Thorens

    Jahr der Einfuhrung Modell Plattenspieler
    1883 Musikdosen, Musikwerke
    1906 Trichtergrammophone
    1928 erster Direktantrieb
    1929 erstes Magnetsystem
    1943 bis 1954 CD 30 Wechsler
    CD 50 beidseitige Abtastung
    CD 43 Wechsler
    CBA 83,CB33,E53PA
    1957 TD 124 Tonarm BL104/BTD12S (1957-1965)
    1958 TD 184 Tonarm BL104
    1959 TD 134 Tonarm BL104 1959-1964
    1961 TD 135 Tonarm BTD12S1961-1964
    1962 TDW224 Wechsler Tonarm BTD12S
    1965 TD 150 Tonarm TP13
    1966 TD 124 II Tonarm TP 14
    1966-1968
    TD 135 II Tonarm TP 14
    1966 TD 124 II Tonarm SME3012
    1968 TD 125  1968-1971
    1969 TD 150II Tonarm TP 13a
    1972 TD125II/TP16 1972-1975
    TD 160 / TD145/TP16, TD 165/TP11
    1976 TD 126 / TP16
    1976 TD 160MkII/145MkII / TP16II
    (m.Endabschaltung)
    1977 TD110, TD115(m.Endabschaltung)
    1977-1982
    1978 TD 104, TD105(m.Endabschaltung)
    1978-1981
    1978 TD 126III / TP16III
    1978-1986
    1979 Reference (limitiert auf 100)  
    1981 TD 104 II, TD105II(m.Endabschaltung)
    1981-1984
    1982 TD 524 / TP16Spezial
      TD110 II, TD115II (m.Endabschaltung)
    1982-1984
     
    TD166II/TP11-2,TD160II/TP16-3
    1983 100Jahre Thorens TD 147 Jubilee 
    TD 126 Centennial / TP16-3, 
    TD 127 (m.Endabschaltung)1983-1984
      TD 226 f.2 Tonarme, TD 160Super  
    1983 Prestige
    1984 TD 320
      TD 316 ohne
    TD 318 mit Endabschaltung
    1985 TD 520 mit TP16/IV L
    TD280
    1988 Concrete
    1989 TD 2001
    1990 TD 3001  
    1991 TD 180  
      TD 318II
      TD 2001Isotrack
      Ambience, TD 295  
      TD 535
      TD318Mk4
    1999 TD 325, TD 190  
    2000 Das Ende  :-(
    2001 Thorens Service wird neu organisiert :-)

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    TD 124
    TD 160mk1
    TD 145mk2
     

    Prestige
    TD 104 / 105
    TD 110 / 115

    TD 126mk3
     

    TD 160 Super / 147

    TD 146/166mk2
    TD 318
    Phantasie
    TD 280TD 280 IV
    TD 520
    TD 524
    Concrete
    TD 535
    2001 RDC
    TD 318mk4

     

    Technical data
    [the correctness of this information cannot be guaranteed]

    Additional information on the classic suspended models : platter weight > 3 kg = metal subplatter, < 3 kg = plastic subplatter.
    Additional information about Thorens tonearms under the table.

     

    model

    year

    drive system

    motor

    speed switching mode

    platter

    suspension

    tonearm

    manual /
    automatic

    auto
    shut-off

    TD 104
    TD 104 Mk II

    1978
    1980

    belt

    DC,
    72-pole

    33, 45;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    1,3 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    no

    TP 22

    manual

    no

    TD 105
    TD 105 Mk II

    1978
    1981

    belt

    DC,
    72-pole

    33, 45;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    1,3 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    no

    TP 22

    semi automatic

    yes

    TD 110

    1977

    belt

    DC,
    72-pole

    33, 45;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    1,3 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, "ortho-inertial"

    TP 30

    manual

    no

    TD 111

    1962

    belt, idler wheel

    AC; 4-pole, induction
    motor

    33

    no specs

    no

    no

    manual

    no

    TD 115

    1977

    belt

    DC,
    72-pole

    33, 45;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    1,3 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, “ortho-inertial"

    TP 30

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 115 Mk II

    1982

    belt

    DC,
    72-pole

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    1,3 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, "ortho-inertial"

    TP 30

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 121

    1961

    belt, idler wheel

    AC; 4-pole, induction
    motor

    33

    4,8 kg; Iron;
    300 mm

    no

    BTD-12 S, Ortofon, SME

    manual

    no

    TD 124

    1957

    belt, idler wheel

    AC; 4-pole, induction
    motor

    16, 33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±3%;
    mech.

    4,8 kg; Iron, Aluminium;
    300 mm

    no

    BTD-12 S, Ortofon, SME

    manual

    no

    TD 124 / II

    1966

    belt, idler wheel

    AC; 4-pole, induction
    motor

    16, 33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±3%;
    mech.

    4,5 kg, Iron or Zamak, Aluminium;
    300 mm

    no

    TP 14, Ortofon, SME

    manual

    no

    TD 125

    1968

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    16, 33, 45;
    pitch ±2%;
    electr.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 14, SME

    manual

    no

    TD 125 Mk II

    1972

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    16, 33, 45;
    pitch ±2%;
    electr.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16, SME

    manual

    no

    TD 126

    1976

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16

    auto lift-off, manual

    yes

    TD 126 Mk II

    1976

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16 Mk II

    auto lift-off, manual

    yes

    TD 126 Mk III

    1977

    belt

    DC,
    72-pole

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16 Mk III, EMT, SME

    auto lift-off, manual

    yes

    TD 126 Mk IV

    1977

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16 Mk III

    auto lift-off, manual

    yes

    TD 127

    1983

    belt

    DC,
    72-pole

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    SME 3012

    auto lift-off, manual

    yes

    TD 134

    1959

    belt, Idler wheel

    AC; 4-pole, induction
    motor

    16, 33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±3%;
    mech.

    Iron, Aluminium;
    250 mm

    no

    BL 104

    manual

    no

    TD 135

    1961

    belt, Idler wheel

    AC; 4-pole, induction
    motor

    16, 33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±3%;
    mech.

    2,9 kg; Iron, Aluminium;
    300 mm

    no

    BTD-12 S

    manual, motor stop

    no

    TD 135 / II

    1965

    belt, Idler wheel

    AC; 4-pole, induction
    motor

    16, 33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±3%;
    mech.

    2,9 kg; Iron, Aluminium;
    300 mm

    no

    TP 14

    manual, motor stop

    no

    TD 145

    1975

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 145 Mk II

    1976

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16 Mk II

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 146

    1982

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 21

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 146 Mk II

    1986

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 21

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 146 Mk V

    1988

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 28

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 146 Mk VI

    1992

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 50

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 147

    1982

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16 Mk III

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 150

    1965

    belt

    AC; synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    3,4 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 13, SME

    manual

    no

    TD 150 Mk II

    1969

    belt

    AC; synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    3,4 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 13a, SME

    manual

    no

    TD 160

    1972

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16

    manual

    no

    TD 160 Mk II

    1976

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16 Mk II / III

    manual

    no

    TD 160 Mk IV

    1987

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16 Mk IV

    manual

    no

    TD 160 Mk V

    1988

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 90

    manual

    no

    TD 160 E

    ?

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16 Mk III

    manual

    yes

    TD 160 Super

    1983

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 16 Mk III, Rega, SME

    manual

    no

    TD 165

    1972

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 11

    manual

    no

    TD 166

    1975

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 11

    manual

    no

    TD 166 Mk II

    1976

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 21

    manual

    no

    TD 166 Mk V

    1988

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 50

    manual

    no

    TD 166 Mk VI

    1992

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    Rega RB 250

    manual

    no

    TD 170 (original)

    1965
    ?

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    mech.

    3,4 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    TP 13,
    TP 13a

    manual

    no

    TD 170

    1999

    belt

    DC, regulated

    33, 45;
    electr.

    0,8 kg; Aluminium;
    300 mm

    no

    no specs

    full automatic

    yes

    TD 180

    1991

    belt

    DC, regulated

    33, 45, 78;
    electr.

    0,8 kg; Aluminium;
    300 mm

    no

    TP 20

    semi automatic

    yes

    TD 184

    1958

    belt, idler wheel

    AC; 4-pole, induction
    motor

    16, 33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±3%;
    mech.

    Iron, Aluminium;
    250 mm

    no

    BL 104

    full automatic

    yes

    TD 190

    1991

    belt

    DC, regulated

    33, 45, 78;
    electr.

    0,8 kg; Aluminium;
    300 mm

    no

    TP 19

    full automatic

    yes

    TDW 224

    1962

    belt, idler wheel

    AC; 4-pole, induction
    motor

    16, 33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±3%;
    mech.

    3,5 kg, Zamak;
    300 mm

    no

    BTD-12 S

    full automatic, changer

    yes

    TD 226

    1983

    belt

    DC,
    72-pole

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    3,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, spring

    2x TP 16, Koshin, SME

    auto lift-off, manual

    yes

    TD 280
    TD 280 Mk II
    TD 280 Exclusiv
    TD 280 Mk III

    1985
    1986

    1988
    1991

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    1,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    no

    TP 28

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 280 Mk IV

    1992

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    1,2 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    no

    TP 35

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 290

    1992

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45
    electr.

    2,3 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    no

    TP 40

    no

    yes

    TD 290 Mk II

    ?

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45, 78;
    electr.

    2,3 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    no

    TP 40

    ?

    yes

    TD 295 Mk II
    TD 295 Mk III

    1992
    2002

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45, 78;
    electr.

    2,3 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    no

    TP 40

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 316

    1985

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    TP 21

    manual

    no

    TD 316 Mk II

    1988

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    TP 28

    manual

    no

    TD 318

    1988

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    TP 21

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 318 Mk II

    1992

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    TP 28

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 318 Mk III

    1995

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    2,7 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    TP 50

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 320

    1983
    1986

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    3,1 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    TP 16 Mk III
    TP 16 Mk IV

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 320 Mk II

    1988

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    3,1 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    TP 90

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 320 Mk III

    1992

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    3,1 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    TP 90

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 325

    1999

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

     33, 45;
    electr.

    2,5 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

     yes, leaf spring

    TP 90

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 520
    TD 520 Mk II

    1985
    ?

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±12%;
    electr.

    3,1 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    SME 3012, SME 309,
    TP 90 L

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 524

    1982

    direct drive

    DC,
    256-pole, quartz PLL

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±25%;
    electr.

    330 mm

    yes

    TP 16 Spezial

    auto lift-off, manual
    remote control

    yes

    TD 535

    1991

    direct drive

    DC, quartz PLL

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±15%;
    electr.

    2,5 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes

    TP 90

    manual, remote control

    no

    TD 738

    1982

    direct drive

    DC,
    256-pole, quartz PLL

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±25%;
    electr.

    330 mm

    yes

    TP 29 (EMT 929)

    manual, remote control

    no

    TD 2001

    1989

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    3,1 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    TP 90

    auto lift-off

    yes

    TD 3001

    1990

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    3,3 kg; Zamak;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    TP 90 S

    manual

    no

    TD 800

    2003

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    3,2 kg; Aluminium
    300 mm

    no

    Rega RB 250

    manual

    no

    TD 810

    2003

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    4,3 kg; Aluminium
    300 mm

    no

    Rega RB 250

    manual

    no

    TD 850

    2003

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    4,5 kg; Aluminium
    300 mm

    no

    Rega RB 300

    manual

    no

    Ambiance

    1991

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    2,5 kg; acrylic; 300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    SME 309 GP

    manual

    no

    Concrete

    1988

    belt

    AC; 24-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    2,9 kg;
    300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    SME 309

    manual

    no

    Phantasie

    1984

    belt

    AC; 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45;
    electr.

    3,1 kg; Zamak; 300 mm

    yes, leaf spring

    TP 16 Mk IV

    auto lift-off

    yes

    Prestige

    1983

    belt

    AC, 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    8,1 kg; Aluminium
    340 mm

    yes, spring

    2x, various

    manual

    no

    Reference

    1980

    belt

    AC, 16-pole, synchronous

    33, 45, 78;
    pitch ±6%;
    electr.

    6,6 kg
    303 mm

    yes, spring

    3x, various

    manual

    no

    Thorens tonearm information :

    TP 11 - headshell TP 60, eff. mass 16.5 grams, eff. length 230 mm, mounting dist. 215.6 mm, overhang 14.4 mm, offset angle 22 degrees
    TP 11 II - armwand TP 62, mass 7.5, length 230, mount. 215.6, overh. 14.4, offset 22
    TP 11 III - armwand TP 63, mass 7.5, length 232, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset 23
    TP 16 - hs TP 60, mass 16.5, length 230, mount. 215.6, overh. 14.4, offset 22
    TP 16 II - armwand TP 62, mass 7.5, length 230, mount. 215.6, overh. 14.4, offset  22
    TP 61 III - armwand TP 63, mass 7.5, length 232, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset 23
    TP 16 IV - hs TP 68, mass 12.5, length 232, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset  23
    TP 16 L - hs TP 68, mass 14, length 247.7, mount. 230, overh. 17.7, offset 23
    TP 21 - armwands TP 62 and TP 63, mass 7.5, length 232 mm, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset 23
    TP 21 IV - hs TP 68, mass 12.5, length 232, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset  23
    TP 22 - armwands TP 62 / TP 63, mass 7.5, length 222, mount.206.5, overh. 15.5, offset 22
    TP 28 - hs TP 68, mass 12.5, length 232, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset 23
    TP 30 - armwand TP 70, mass 7.5, length 222, mount.206.5, overh. 15.5, offset 23
    TP 35 - hs TP 55, mass 15, length 212, mount.--, overh. 16, offset 24
    TP 40 - hs TP 55, mass 15.5, length 232, mount.--, overh. 16.4, offset 24
    TP 50 - hs TP 55, mass 14, length 228, mount.--, overh. 18, offset 24
    TP 90 - hs TP 95, mass 17, length 228, mount.210, overh. 18, offset 24
    TP 90 L - hs TP 96, mass 20, length 272.5, mount.257.5, overh. 15, offset  20

    For the TP 11 II / III, TP 16 II / III and TP 21 were also available :
    TMC 63 (armwand with integrated EMT mc-cartridge, best used with the dedicated PPA 990 prepre)
    TPO 63 (armwand with integrated Ortofon ultra low mass mm-cartridge, eff. mass just 4.5 grams).

    The TMC 63 could be used with the TP 22 theoretically, but arm and turntable (TD 104/105) cannot match the quality of the cartridge.
    The TPO 63 cannot be used with the TD 104 / 105 because the counterweight of the TP 22 is too heavy (the lightweight counterweight that comes with the TPO 63 does not fit on the TP 22).

    For the TP 30 (TD 110 / 115) were also available :
    TMC 70
    TPO 70
    (see descriptions above).

    Holger Trass 2003